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[Sorry for my English] Hello everyone! I want to write bot with Pywikipediabot to edit russian articles. Should I have special rights to do this? --Daniil 10:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you want to write a bot for? — Wind 20:14, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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— minip 01:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

For the people who are still alive? Darkstar516 23:28, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I thought all of us are alive... until we bring GLaDOS some neurotoxin DrAkcel ^{(T | C)} 03:59, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Canon Portal storyline

Trying to start off some articles for the characters I realized that the Portal timeline and storyline has been changed by Valve quite a few time. For instance last year they gave gameinformer this timeline which states Cave Johnson contracted mercury poisoning, while in-game he states he became ill after grinding up poisonous moon rocks. Also from what I recall his motivations for building GLaDOS were different during the Portal 2 announcement ARG. This is probably a result of Valve constantly changing the Portal 2 storyline as the game developed. In short I'm finding it difficult to build a storyline without it contradicting itself everywhere. I propose we take everything in Portal 2 as hard fact (obviously) and take everything else from reliable sources (the ARG, gameinformer article(?)) as long as it doesn't contradict with statements made in Portal 2. —Mussekateer·talk 15:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

There's no official story about the Cave Johnson bit, but there seems to be a consensus around the community that the story in gameinformer was a "cover story" for the public. Of course, that's all speculation. My recommendation is that if something in the game contradicts other information, then the game should take precedence as the official canonical version. I have the feeling that most of what was in the ARG is going to get cut. Even some things as recent as the second ARG, like Cave Johnson's portrait (Google image search Cave Johnson, you'll see what I mean) is different in-game. –Alex  2539 (t · c) 21:09, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

One thing to consider is that CJ might have thought Mercury was "moon rocks" because it was called Mercury. He wasn't exactly scientifically inclined so it's a possibility, even if it is a stretch. It makes sense to me that Mercury could be a good portal conductor too. -- Lagg 21:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Well mercury is liquid at room temperature, so it's hard to imagine it being confused with a rock of any sort. That's not really the point though. What matters is that there is a contradiction. Since the game says "moon rocks" we should too. It might be worth mentioning that previous material mentioned mercury poisoning but we can't possibly give a reason for the change without falling into supposition. Unless an official explanation is given, the games should take precedence as "fact", everything else is a note of interest. –Alex  2539 (t · c) 01:07, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Quotes

I was thinking we should add quotes to the Skin pages, Hat pages, Flag pages, etc. Most other articles have their own quotes, so why not these? --Nihilus0(contribs) 23:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing; the only reason they don't have quotes is we haven't found funny ones for them. If you find one, by all means put it — Wind 23:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Mod articles?

So I stumbled on the page for Portal: Project-Beta and I think this deserves addressing while the Wiki is still young. What is our policy on mods? Obviously we can't have an article for every mod under the sun, but some, like Portal: Prelude are obviously deserving. For those that are less obvious, what criteria should be met before an article is considered for them? My first instinct is to prefer those that are notable and available for download. There should also probably be a minimum level of quality. I should mention that I don't mean to say that Project-Beta is undeserving of an article, I don't know the mod well enough to judge. Instead, if it is deserving i would like to know why and what other mods should be included. –Alex  2539 (t · c) 20:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

This kind of debate doesn't really end >: Just write about the ones that are obviously notable (Portal Prelude, Blue Portals). — Wind 20:14, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Late, but I actually play through the mods and assess if they are note-worthy. They need to be complete (i.e in a feature-complete released state), and they must be notable. I judge notability via their Mod.db page. Obviously presence on Mod.db is not enough, it must have good feedback scores, a good download count, and a good rank; all of these statistics are available on Mod.db. i-ghost 12:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

1000 article milestone

*confetti* i-ghost 00:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I made it all up — Wind 00:56, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Un... Offical Portal Wiki

I thought. Can we be OFFICIAL PORTAL WIKI?

I've wrtitten to Gabe about this theme.

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How do you think? Can we be? --CakeJohnson 11:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

e have asked previously but have received no answer — Wind 01:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Anything yet? I want to dethrone the OverWiki from it's Portal-related dominance. Sven 11:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Nope, I don't think they want an official wiki at this point — Wind 13:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Portal 2 co-op chamber descriptions

I'll be playing the co-op campaign pretty soon, and I saw the co-op chamber articles didn't exist. Should I go ahead and create them once I've played or someone else is doing that?

Oh, and by the way, I'll be playing it on the PS3, also on split screen, and I don't have a capture card nor a good enough PC to rip graphics/video, so that'll be a no-chance regarding videos, graphics and map names. Jerry ^{{ Talk }} 16:38, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You can fill them in if you want to, but not the walkthrough section as this should follow the steps in the video — Wind 01:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

"The Ball"

As "The Ball" from the Potato Sack seems to exist in the Portal universe (and has also been released on Valve) should there be an article? Half Life 2 has its own article, even if only just a small snippet linking to other articles. LordApocalyptica 00:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

A quick mention would be helpful, yes, similar to tf2:Monday Night Combat — Wind 01:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

What exactly defines "in the same universe?" All the games that have had official crossovers? Would that make the events in, say, Defense Grid, canon? Did the Space Core really land in Skyrim? Where do/should we draw the line? Sven 06:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I would say a game has an official crossover if there is actually story involved that we know of and it is more than a cameo. For example, the Space Core in Skyrim is much more of a cameo appearance; as far as I know (haven't gotten Skyrim yet so cannot say) there is no story advancement with him. However in games where there is some sort of story (Freeman and Johnson rivalry) it might merit a mention. With The Ball we have an actual venture into Aperture Science and there is definitely GLaDOS. LordApocalyptica 16:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Calibration Course Page

Hello. I just wanted to say that I think that Calibration Course in co-op should have its own article. Can somebody create it and i will edit it. Also i think it should be included in Template:TestChambersNav. --Patko0770 19:31, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I found the Create page button. I no longer need a response. --Patko0770 19:38, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Added to nav~ The article title should be Portal 2 Co-op Calibration Course — Wind 19:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I will also try to write a text walkthrough, but im not sure if it will be good, so feel free to edit it. --Patko0770 20:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well usually I'd tell you to not do that because the walkthrough is supposed to follow the steps shown in the video, except there's no video right now and finding coop partners is proving to be hard :( Anyway, thanks for writing~ — Wind 21:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Text walkthrough can be made in split-screen. But it would look bad to take screenshots or record videos in split-screen, so I will just leave that to someone else. Anyway, i created a Shredder page, but its horribly empty because i dont have time to write something there now. Ill do it later, but can you add it to Mechanics template/navigation? --Patko0770 14:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey, a 2-column walkthrough for coop doesn't seem like a bad idea... Anyway, thanks, added to navigation. You should join IRC — Wind 19:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Minor/mentioned characters

In the comic Lab Rat, it mentions a character by the name of Henry. In Portal 2, we see numerous potato-related projects with the names of children, in addition to the names of the other test subjects in Lab Rat that Rattman moved out of the way to make way for Chell. I've seen that the OverWiki has made note of these characters, but should we? Would their mention help make the wiki "content complete"? Sven 00:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't be against listing them on the comic page perhaps (but it would need to be a collapsible box), but not on separate articles. Otherwise, things like this happen. — Wind 00:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to avoid that sort of situation.. Thanks for the answer. Sven 00:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)