Portal Wiki:Discussion: Difference between revisions

(20 intermediate revisions by 9 users not shown)

Line 377:

== Glados Voice Lines page completely inaccessable ==

Attempting to enter the Glados Voice Lines page leads to an error page

— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Paulgrobe|Paulgrobe]]''' ([[User talk:Paulgrobe|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Paulgrobe|contribs]])

:Thanks, this is fixed now. — [[User:WindPower|Wind]] 05:50, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

== New Citizen skin ==

I've noticed via RC that we're creating resource pages for the Citizen skin. We've also [[Special:Version|installed it]] it seems. How does one preview it? Using <code>?useskin=citizen</code> doesn't seem to work. ~ [[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]] 02:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

: It was <s>(accidentally?)</s> included in the latest software upgrade. It's super broken but you can enable it by clicking "Mobile view" in the footer (or by accessing the wiki through a mobile phone).

: <s>We don't have the man(n)power to maintain it (heck, we barely have the manpower to keep the articles up to date :'() so I'll check if we can disable it.</s> — [[User:Tark|Tark]] 03:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:: Looks hella cool though... I am all for making this the default [https://i.imgur.com/k9BD5zQ.png ] ~ [[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]] 09:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

::: Not much of a fan of turning it into the default theme, I think our current look is quite iconic (and better on desktop).

::: It will take some time to make it look right since lots of templates use in-line styling, but I'll look into ''slowly'' updating it whenever I have the time. Feel free to use this topic as a "request area" for issues with this skin. — [[User:Tark|Tark]] 18:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

== Anyone here? ==

Just got here, and it seems completely dead. I'm sure there's nobody editing anymore, but still, it's just weird.

— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Kirbo|Kirbo]]''' ([[User talk:Kirbo|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Kirbo|contribs]]) 19:07 CET, 21-2-2025

:Remember to sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.

:It's not a super active wiki but there are occasional edits here and there. [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 19:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

::Indeed. All that's left are tedious maintenance tasks, cleanup here and there, and monitoring of the occasional new edits and vandals. You can safely guess that the wiki will come back alive when Valve does something again, but that's not often, and it's usually because of a [[February_13,_2025_Patch_(Portal)|broken update]]. ~ ''Markus,'' [[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]] 00:15, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

::: Fair. Let's just hope something can happen. ~ [[User:Kirbo|Kirbo]]

hello I'm new here, I wanna talk yeah . . . I LOVE PORTAL 2 <nowiki>hyperisaac</nowiki>

== Potential renaming of test chamber pages ==

Currently, all of the test chamber pages are simply named based on the game title, chapter, and chamber number, for example [[Portal 2 Chapter 4 Test Chamber 18]]. While this is technically sufficient to differentiate chambers, in practice it makes trying to find pages for specific test chambers nearly impossible. Nobody remembers chamber numbers, and many players don't even look at the signs to begin with, so trying to find the page for a specific chamber usually boils down to just clicking through randomly until you find the one you're looking for (on a wiki which already seems to struggle with server issues and is often slow or unresponsive).

However, all of the Portal 2 chambers and many chambers in mods actually have descriptive names, originating from the Challenge Mode UI and map filenames. In fact, many of the test chamber pages on this wiki already list these names as part of the infobox! (e.g. see the page I linked above) With that in mind, it seems logical to rename the pages to use these names when available. The challenge mode names could be used directly, while map filenames in mods would need to be "prettified" (replacing underscores with spaces, removing prefixes, and changing to title case). These names are far easier to remember than numbers are, and also usually give a basic description of the map, so even if you didn't have them memorized you could still look at "chapter 8 - funnel polarity" and determine that that's probably the map where reversed funnels are introduced. This would help to make finding test chamber pages easier, and potentially reduce server strain as a result of users not having to click through as many different pages.

Not all maps have these names available (particularly in Portal 1 and mods for it), so those maps would just continue to use the current page naming scheme, perhaps with slight changes. Portal 1's maps are fairly easier to remember by number anyway (since the whole game is on a single continuous testing track), so this should be fine. I also personally think it would look nicer to remove the chapter number from the page titles and purely use the game title and map name separated by a dash (e.g. "Portal 2 - Funnel Polarity", "Portal - Test Chamber 13", etc). This could potentially cause problems though if a mod had two maps with the same internal name in different chapters, so it would need further evaluation.

All the existing pages would be kept as redirects, so old links would still work. I'd like to hear people's feedback on this and if there's any reason it shouldn't be done or things that should be done differently than suggested. - [[User:VRadExe|VRadExe]] ([[User talk:VRadExe|talk]]) 00:24, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

: Sounds neat. I propose just using a redirect for these new titles, or moving the old pages to these new titles and leaving a redirect for them (if such changes are not feasible or wanted by the site staff). ~ ''Markus,'' [[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]] 00:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

:: I'm personally fine with the way things are currently (naming convention is defined [[Help:Style_guide/Test_chambers|here]]), and since there are hundreds of chamber pages, I don't think moving all of them to new locations is worth the effort just for aesthetics.

:: If the names are easy to remember, we can always use redirects to guide people to the right locations. — [[User:Tark|Tark]] 19:55, 17 August 2025 (UTC)

== where did every image go? ==

whenever i load into any page, none of the files load. any idea whats going on? [[User:TheLarcenist|TheLarcenist]] ([[User talk:TheLarcenist|talk]]) 08:24, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

: Should be fixed. Apologies for the inconvenience. — [[User:Tark|Tark]] 14:58, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

== No images ==

The whole page seems broken. All of the images are gone (dead links) and the homepage is reduced to just "<html><head></head><body></body></html>". I got an error upon logging in. Is someone griefing again or was there a server error? [[User:Derp|Derp]] ([[User talk:Derp|talk]])

:Looks like a temporary server error. Pages and images load fine on my end ~ ''Markus,'' [[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]] 05:30, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

@@ Line 377: / Line 377: @@
 == Glados Voice Lines page completely inaccessable ==
 Attempting to enter the Glados Voice Lines page leads to an error page
+<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Paulgrobe|Paulgrobe]]''' ([[User talk:Paulgrobe|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Paulgrobe|contribs]]) </small>
+:Thanks, this is fixed now. — [[User:WindPower|Wind]] 05:50, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
+== New Citizen skin ==
+I've noticed via RC that we're creating resource pages for the Citizen skin. We've also [[Special:Version|installed it]] it seems. How does one preview it? Using <code>?useskin=citizen</code> doesn't seem to work. ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 .075em currentColor; font-weight: 900; font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Noto Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 110%">[[User:Headquarter8302|<span style="color: blue">Headquarter</span>]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|<span style="color: orange;">8302</span>]]</span> 02:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
+: It was <s>(accidentally?)</s> included in the latest software upgrade. It's super broken but you can enable it by clicking "Mobile view" in the footer (or by accessing the wiki through a mobile phone).
+: <s>We don't have the man(n)power to maintain it (heck, we barely have the manpower to keep the articles up to date :'() so I'll check if we can disable it.</s> — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 03:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
+:: Looks hella cool though... I am all for making this the default [https://i.imgur.com/k9BD5zQ.png ] ~ <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 .075em currentColor; font-weight: 900; font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Noto Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 110%">[[User:Headquarter8302|<span style="color: blue">Headquarter</span>]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|<span style="color: orange;">8302</span>]]</span> 09:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
+::: Not much of a fan of turning it into the default theme, I think our current look is quite iconic (and better on desktop).
+::: It will take some time to make it look right since lots of templates use in-line styling, but I'll look into ''slowly'' updating it whenever I have the time. Feel free to use this topic as a "request area" for issues with this skin. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 18:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Anyone here? ==
+Just got here, and it seems completely dead. I'm sure there's nobody editing anymore, but still, it's just weird.
+<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Kirbo|Kirbo]]''' ([[User talk:Kirbo|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Kirbo|contribs]]) 19:07 CET, 21-2-2025</small>
+:Remember to sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
+:It's not a super active wiki but there are occasional edits here and there. [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 19:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
+::Indeed. All that's left are tedious maintenance tasks, cleanup here and there, and monitoring of the occasional new edits and vandals. You can safely guess that the wiki will come back alive when Valve does something again, but that's not often, and it's usually because of a [[February_13,_2025_Patch_(Portal)|broken update]]. ~ ''Markus,'' <span style="font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Noto Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 125%">[[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]]</span> 00:15, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
+::: Fair. Let's just hope something can happen. ~ [[User:Kirbo|Kirbo]]
+hello I'm new here, I wanna talk yeah . . . I LOVE PORTAL 2 <nowiki>hyperisaac</nowiki>
+== Potential renaming of test chamber pages ==
+Currently, all of the test chamber pages are simply named based on the game title, chapter, and chamber number, for example [[Portal 2 Chapter 4 Test Chamber 18]]. While this is technically sufficient to differentiate chambers, in practice it makes trying to find pages for specific test chambers nearly impossible. Nobody remembers chamber numbers, and many players don't even look at the signs to begin with, so trying to find the page for a specific chamber usually boils down to just clicking through randomly until you find the one you're looking for (on a wiki which already seems to struggle with server issues and is often slow or unresponsive).
+However, all of the Portal 2 chambers and many chambers in mods actually have descriptive names, originating from the Challenge Mode UI and map filenames. In fact, many of the test chamber pages on this wiki already list these names as part of the infobox! (e.g. see the page I linked above) With that in mind, it seems logical to rename the pages to use these names when available. The challenge mode names could be used directly, while map filenames in mods would need to be "prettified" (replacing underscores with spaces, removing prefixes, and changing to title case). These names are far easier to remember than numbers are, and also usually give a basic description of the map, so even if you didn't have them memorized you could still look at "chapter 8 - funnel polarity" and determine that that's probably the map where reversed funnels are introduced. This would help to make finding test chamber pages easier, and potentially reduce server strain as a result of users not having to click through as many different pages.
+Not all maps have these names available (particularly in Portal 1 and mods for it), so those maps would just continue to use the current page naming scheme, perhaps with slight changes. Portal 1's maps are fairly easier to remember by number anyway (since the whole game is on a single continuous testing track), so this should be fine. I also personally think it would look nicer to remove the chapter number from the page titles and purely use the game title and map name separated by a dash (e.g. "Portal 2 - Funnel Polarity", "Portal - Test Chamber 13", etc). This could potentially cause problems though if a mod had two maps with the same internal name in different chapters, so it would need further evaluation.
+All the existing pages would be kept as redirects, so old links would still work. I'd like to hear people's feedback on this and if there's any reason it shouldn't be done or things that should be done differently than suggested. - [[User:VRadExe|VRadExe]] ([[User talk:VRadExe|talk]]) 00:24, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
+: Sounds neat. I propose just using a redirect for these new titles, or moving the old pages to these new titles and leaving a redirect for them (if such changes are not feasible or wanted by the site staff). ~ ''Markus,'' <span style="font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Noto Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 125%">[[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]]</span> 00:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
+:: I'm personally fine with the way things are currently (naming convention is defined [[Help:Style_guide/Test_chambers|here]]), and since there are hundreds of chamber pages, I don't think moving all of them to new locations is worth the effort just for aesthetics.
+:: If the names are easy to remember, we can always use redirects to guide people to the right locations. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 19:55, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
+== where did every image go? ==
+whenever i load into any page, none of the files load. any idea whats going on? [[User:TheLarcenist|TheLarcenist]] ([[User talk:TheLarcenist|talk]]) 08:24, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
+: Should be fixed. Apologies for the inconvenience. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 14:58, 1 December 2025 (UTC)
+== No images ==
+The whole page seems broken. All of the images are gone (dead links) and the homepage is reduced to just "<html><head></head><body></body></html>". I got an error upon logging in. Is someone griefing again or was there a server error? [[User:Derp|Derp]] ([[User talk:Derp|talk]])
+:Looks like a temporary server error. Pages and images load fine on my end ~ ''Markus,'' <span style="font-family: 'Open Sans', 'Noto Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 125%">[[User:Headquarter8302|Headquarter]][[User talk:Headquarter8302|8302]]</span> 05:30, 1 December 2025 (UTC)